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Kian Hoban's avatar

That course pairing philosophy and fiction sounds fantastic. I’d have loved that. I wrote an essay a few years ago on how Virginia Woolf might have intentionally used ideas from Henri Bergson’s Time and Free Will when writing Mrs. Dalloway.

Speaking of which, Proust definitely drew from Bergson. And apparently was the best man at his wedding (Bergson married Proust’s cousin). Great post.

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Stephen Saperstein Frug's avatar

"The idea of cleanly cleaving Western philosophy into two rival camps is silly anyway. Many philosophers are informed by both traditions, and continental philosophy is a loose term for a vast swath of different ideas and traditions."

This is too pat.

Concern about the analytic-continental no longer very much in vogue, certainly, and I think the analytic-continental wars are mostly a dead letter these days (save on Substack this past fortnight, I suppose). It seems pretty clear that departments are not as divided as they once were. But if you study the history of 20th century philosophy it was a *very* serious categorization, it affected both sides of the divide, and works really *were* (as a matter of intellectual history) divisible into the two camps. This is not to deny that there were occasional crossings—the most famous is Derrida's exchange with Searle (Derrida's two contributions are in his book Lies, Inc.)—but they were very much in the spirit of the more-or-less contemporary cold war cultural exchanges: attempts at peace across a distinctly uneasy boundary.

Now, the terms are imprecise: in particular the term "analytic philosophy" has a narrow reading and a broad one, and it's hard to talk without being careful what you're discussing. (A comparison for SF fans: Samuel R. Delany has long denied he had anything much to do with the New Wave... which is true on a *narrow* reading of the term (they hated space opera, he wrote it, etc), but completely false on the broader and much more common usage, in which he was central to it.) One way to put it is to reserve the term "analytic" for the narrower understanding and use "Anglo-American philosophy" for the broader usage, but this is certainly not consistently done. (Once you make this distinction, you can say Analytic philosophy died all the way back in 1970 (!!) when Kripke resurrected metaphysics with his Naming and Necessity lectures.). And the geographic divisions are also imprecise, since Fichte and Wittgenstein were central to Anglo-American philosophy, and plenty of American philosophers were focused largely on continental (although not, that I can think of off the top of my head, any of the most famous ones).

Once you clarify the terms, however, you can say that no, Iris Murdoch is not on the dividing line; she's an Anglo-American philosopher, one of those who prove that not all Anglo-American philosophy was Analytic in the narrower sense. (There are, unsurprisingly, any number of those.)

Two points about the divide as it existed: it mostly emerged in the late 19th century and lasted about a century, but it was sort of retroactively cast back to Kant; Kant was, I think, fully in the tradition embraced by both sides. Still, you can't *really* make the division until almost a century later. Secondly, I would suggest that one quick way to make the distinction (to the limited extent it still exists) is to ask someone who the greatest philosopher of the 20th century was: if they say "Wittgenstein", they're influenced by the Anglo-American tradition, if they say "Heidegger", they're influenced by the continental. (And I do think those are the two major candidates.)

So I can see why you want to dismiss Mr. Bulldog's essay, which definitely had a retro-90s feel to it. And yes, today the distinction is, as I said, mostly over. But I don't think that you can study the history of 20th century philosophy without understanding it. The division may have been foolish, as in it was a foolish thing to do back then, but to think about it now is not *silly* unless you want to dismiss the recent history of the field entirely.

As for writers influenced by Anglo-American philosophy: I would say Richard Powers, David Foster Wallace, Rebecca Goldstein and, of course, Iris Murdoch all count. There are lots of others too—people who are influenced by science or math often end up with Anglo-American philosophical influences without even realizing it.

Finally, to your list of philosophers who are great writers, I would put in a word for Kierkegaard; his work Either/Or, especially, is a literary as well as philosophical text (and includes a lot of fiction in it).

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